Unraid small files slow . 5 day at 59. There is no striping. Plex appdata is notorious for having a lot of small files. With my 4 TB, it would take a little over a day. To set it up: Hi, i'm having some problems with SMB share download/upload speed. 8. I've been a happy Unraid user for the past four years. Diagnostics attached! TIA! edit: UPDATE Hello, I have been looking through threads for any solutions. The Unraid server is connected to the local network with a Gigabit connection and the ISP After all files where moved and the SSD cache was empty the "Some or all files unprotected" was still there even after a reboot of the server. You can post now and register later. comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment Join the conversation. I tested using 6. 2), parity check seems to be very slow (move from ~1. My recommendation is to post on the official unraid support forums. A server with a lot of file activity can fill the log space. trurl. Each disk is an independent file system, and each file exists only on one disk. Hi all, I am new to Unraid. I did not notice this behavior on the 2nd unRAID system. I have my unraid connected directly into my 10Gb switch along with my Mac Pro which I am transfer Basically, with my current setup on my unraid box I get thousands (sometimes hundreds of thousands) of new files per day added to my cache drive. It doesn't make sense to me that if I copy 10 x 1gb files from my desktop over network I get 100-115MB/sec and if I do the same from the windows VM inside unraid I only get 15-40MB/sec. 10. Nextcloud has a lot of small file requests, aswell as the database. Hi - just built a brand new unRAID server in a HP Proliant N40L 2GB server chassis (I already have 4 other unRAID servers in similar hardware - except they have 6TB drives or smaller) 4 data drives + 1 parity. If you're running into this issue, The next time you try and send a file over SMB you should see it perform >10x faster! Enjoy. Created a Docker of Krusader and am Copying the con When I tried to copy a video game to the game folder the transfer speed was very slow, sometimes down to 1mb/s, while I did not have this problem when I transferred the zip file. Feels like I'm getting throttled here! So far my Here is the log file - I looked through it, but honestly not sure what I am looking for. It really was as Basically whenever I am copying a large file to the array whether across the network or locally when I was converting some drives to unRAID overall system performance New unraid server, slow disk clearing New unraid server, slow disk clearing. ssh is good for security, but will not make the transfer faster. I know that creates issues because deletions go in terms of items/second, rather than MB/s, but i figure it should be able to go as fast as that particular hard drive can handle and then still have room for more cpu operations and operations on other hard drives. I've tried to search for solution but no luck, as all other posts suggest network issue, but i can download torrents at well over the speeds i get when transfering files to a share (torrent over 40MB/s copared to share about 3MB/s). There's about 11TB of da Assuming you have gigabit read speeds are normal, writes are low, try transferring an actual file, a large one, using Windows explorer, also note that those SSDs are QLC, write speed will slow down a lot after the small SLC cache is full, to around 80MB/s IIRC. There are plug in to move Large file reads from unRAID are fast and easily saturate a gigabit Ethernet link. 34 GB file from one folder on my cache drive to another folder on the same drive. First file went through at aroung 30MB/sec, second file started at 2MB/sec and quickly deteriorated to around 600KB/sec, and I aborted the procedure at 3% of the file copy progress. New Diag file attached unraid-diagnostics-20190819-0253. So, I wasn't seeing "Update" on the dashboard menu for CrashPlan but alas, when I went to "Docker", there it was. @hammondses states, that he achieves full 10gbe speed, when using a ram-disk on unRAIDs side as destination for the writes. 4MB/s max Read: 2. Unless you write a lot of very small files, the size of the hard drive's cache (8, 16, 32, 64 mb etc. 2 scenarios: 1. zip Drive Benchmarks lets you monitor the performance over time to look for desegregation or unexpected slow areas while getting a clean SMART report. You can see which files and directories are being read and written and keeping the disks from spinning down. Have a look I will see slow writes if I have many small files, but typically when I'm doing things like writing image backups or writing other large files I get bottlenecked by the NIC on Dealing with some generalized network slowness from my Windows 10 VM. 3. I've attached the diagnostics while parity check is running. I am copying my files from another drive, mounted on unRaid, You can use some plugins in Unraid to set up iSCSi, which can behave a lot more like a local hard disk and is much better at small files, but it's more in depth than just connecting to a network share. 3 sometime soon. The plugins have now been merged so both the stable and beta branch are available in the same plugin. When it's done the server is working perfectly fine again. I ended up using the Dynamix File Manager plug-in, click onto the file browser for my pool/cache drive, select all the folders, and use the Move button to move them to one of the disks on my array. 2. It has to be thousands and thousands of files, most of which are pretty small. I am a little confuded by your statement concerning directories, This page is a basic introduction to the Unraid Cache drive, but was written for v4 and v5. Because unraid basicly asks the OS where the data is located, instead of knowing, it slows down everything Reply reply If you are only checking the write speed to unraid perhaps check read from unraid. But there are two settings that you could try: 1. x and it all turns to custard - there are a number of threads on this now. But as expected, I created a VM in Unraid that is hosted on a zfs array and is 35 terabytes in size. 9. 1 or newer and forces the transfer to not use the buffer, which for large files can improve speeds. /j only works on Windows 8. For small files, sometimes the compressed version can be even bigger than the original. That would allow transfer speeds over 100MB/s for large files (say, >10GB). Arq is failing due to a GET request timeout: 2019/12/19 00:04:17:767 DETAIL [ Could someone help me diagnose slow write speeds on my server? I'm getting about 15-20MB/S, and when copying over multiple small files it takes an extremely long time. BTW: reason I did 10GbE (not everything in the house is 10GbE though) is for backups from my desktop to the server, I wanted that to go as fast as it could (desktop has NVMe). This month it is hovering around 65MB/sec. Steam download slow even though my internet is almost 10 times faster This is amazing! I'm in the process of building an Unraid Server to replace both my current plex server and gaming pc. 2Gbps copy speeds via explorer/taskmanager. If anyone could help me figure this out I would real Having some slow transfer speeds on my unraid server and was hoping you guys can lend some insight. 4G ethernet card I've got installed in this T420, I could get 100+ mbps, but it's only 80mbps at best but often quite a bit slower on this unRAID server. I have a HPe Microserver Gen 10 (I know not the best but thats what I have) with a 12 TB parity and 12 TB storage disk. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. I am running version 5. 9 Generally speaking, it works pretty well. Issue is that the "Mover" script takes forever However, iSCSI is slow on unRAID because the system doesn't support disk stripping - unless you do it in the VM, The random IOPs should help with reading/writing many small files - but small files you won't saturate Gigabit in most cases anyways. my subreddits. There's an active thread about slow writes on the unRAID forums. That process went a lot faster than mover. Like others said use iperf to test, make sure you are actually writing to a cache share. I know that moving data between disks is going to be slow because it needs to read source, write destination, read destination, write parity, delete source, write parity every operation. Now, a few hours later it's gotten down to 50MB/s. edit subscriptions. Top. e. By walterg74 March 8, 2015 in General Support (V5 and Older) Start new topic; Recommended Posts. I am maxing out at 30Mbps and sometimes as low as 200kbps. First thing, I would do is to reboot your network switch. But this is still the best it will do: Shouldn't be a bandwidth issue, I have 4Gbps up and down service and the Unraid server has a 2. 0. From the command line after a single file listing (to presumably cache the file structure), access was nearly instant. Formerly these shares were on a Windows 10 box, and SMB browsing of the directories was a bit slow in Windows Explorer, but after indexing, was fine. This slow things down. Controversial. Any ideas how to probe for more information? it doesn't seem to be network speed related. This morning I shut down the unRaid server and booted up into windows - and tried the same download and achieved speeds approaching saturation of the line (around 890Mbps). ESP32 is a series of low cost, low power system on a chip microcontrollers with integrated Wi-Fi and dual-mode Bluetooth. I have an unraid server with 13 4TB drives (one parity) and 9 2TB drives totaling 66TB, of which 44. Writing many small files is much slower than writing few large files because of the per-file the file not in disk inner slow area. My problem is quite an annoying one, that if I ever download a file, or move a file to the array then the entire VM slows right down and becomes jittery/non responsive. In fact, it would make the transfer slower due to the need for encryption By default, my SMB from my Unraid server was very slow (<10% of what it should be, maybe 2-3 MB/s). My box is a ten-year-old Gen7 Proliant Microserver with six drives. Now I want to has other disks to the array so I have to preclear a HDD. These are shucked 8TB Seagate desktop 5400rpm drives which have been extensively tested I am a complete NEWB to Synthing. The transfer speed is slow, way slower than expected (I get around 54 MB (looking to the forum pretty small) unraid setup. While this offers flexibility, it adds an extra processing layer that can slow If youre moving smaller files and multiple of them there could an issue with windows explorer being garbage. Use case: I'm going to use this mainly as a NAS and to run Nextcloud plus a couple of other small web applications with me as the single user. The data is a mixture of video, music, photos, and computer backups across 45+ shares. The first download was delivered through the NVMe: e) The second transfer shows nothing (file was loaded from RAM / SMB RAM cache): If I add a small ssd as a cache disk I will be able to hit 90-100mb/sec file transfers? Yes, using modern disks with turbo write should also max a gigabit connection. kenny-diagnostics-20231121-0707. Unraid's temperature warning thresholds are set too low for NVMe. I setup the unraid server, bonded the nics and added my vlans and used the unassigned devices plug in to mount my synology shares via NFS ( I have also tried SMB) When I started transferring things over I noticed the performance is EXTREAMLY slow. How do I get a folder in NextCloud to show data (files), located in a unraid disk directory, or unraid share, Thanks, Anne I have tried using the add on "external storage" and can not get it to recognize the Jump to content. This was done again using (Hardwired it like UnRAID) Set my MacBook to connect and use that as a backup and still over WiFi I then can push 36MBs during the backup. 9 on a 8 core HP Poliant ML150 G5 with 16GB of ram. I am not an unraid expert but unless you're using ZFS with unraid I think unraid only uses 1 drive at a time (per file), and the theoretical max for a consumer HDD is something like 100-150 MB/s. There is no mention of Dockers, VM's, or Cache Pools. This morning when I checked it's down to 25MB/s and I'm not sure why. 4 hours of synchronizing later, all is well. The best way to get good quality output is to have good quality input. I have currently stopped/cancelled the single disk parity build as I realized I had some more data to move between servers and the writes are much faster when no parity calculation is involved. I'm really liking unRAID so far and I relied heavily on the GREAT setup videos, I would have been lost without them. To say I was disappointed with the download speeds would be an understatement as they showed little increase from the previous 200Mbps package. The file copy starts fast at about 130MB/sec. 6TB is already in use. The drive rebuild is going unGodly slow, between 500kbps and 4mbps. When i'm mass transferring data to the server i get about 70 MB/s to 80 MB/s Started the move again and Apps are still slow. But in 10 hours it has moved only about 300gb at writes that are 1/15th normal throughput. ) Hello there, TL;DR: My write speed to SMB share is incredibly slow (like 3MB/s at best from Veeam, <1MB/s just copying directories) . DS_store or other Mac specific hidden files. On unraid it takes 31 seconds Main comp The unRaid drives are connected to the Adaptec 51245 controller - which whilst not exactly modern, surely can't be that slow? (Documentation says 3GB/s per port). 3 hours ago, rockard said: I'll definitely do that, but I'll have to wait for mover to finish, I have a few directories/shares that have thousands of files in the top level. Use a classicle Raid + 10G Network and it will be better. Posted August 19, 2019. But nothing lasts forever, and I want to plan ahead for when the Microserver eventually kicks the bucket. what ive been doing recently is mainly using a VM for gaming and the last plugin i installed was the stats plugin that shows network activity (i have tried It should help a bit if the bottleneck is in transfers, but if memory/cpu are the limiting factors, compression will not help much, and even can slow transfers down. TeraCopy can also do asynchronous copying which speeds up file transfer between two physical hard drives. When tranferring the spe In researching why, I discovered I need to set those shares to "cache only" for starters (which is helpful) and then needed to also do an unRAID update. The problem I have is when transfering files over the network from my computer to the server, it transfers very slow at 10mbs. Old. Lots of tiny files will always transfer slow. When I tried to copy the zip package to the game folder and then extract it from the folder, I encountered the same problem, and the extract speed was extremely slow. The transfer speed is slow, way slower (files of around 600 MB each) to the NAS vie the Windows Also netdata shows basically no CPU load during small file transfers. The versions of Arq and Minio in use haven't changed recently. Why is on unraid that write speed at least that slow ? I understand caching etc etc Would it make sense to use a hardware Spinners will often slow down when you are transferring a large number of small files to the server due to the file allocation overhead as well as the seek time and latency of the heads. You're guessing right, both zip and unzip executables aren't native to linux but most linux distributions (including unRAID) ships with it and a lot of other useful programs. 90MB encrypted and sent @ 9. Best. cp <file> /mnt/disk1/TV/ <-- This copies a file full speed, a 300mb file transfers in a few seconds cp <file> /mnt/user/TV/ <-- This causes the issue, grinds the system to a halt, sends sysload up to 5 or 6 and beyond, and takes about a minute to complete. I also have a 120 GB cache SSD. the many files part, they aren't small, they are all large. I found a few posts on the Unraid forums about SMB performance with lots of files and some suggested tweaks but they didn't seem to to make much of a difference for me. Its running 6. 6mb/s. It started out at 270MB/s over the network. So whats wrong with this share? Is it really not protected since now all files are on the array (array has ha parity disk)? Edited July 19, 2021 by gekoch I don't recommend leaving it on all the time. My solution was to do the initial file copy via NFS. One is running Windows 10 (gaming rig) another is running Windows 10 (download rig) and the third is running Unraid. It could be that your PC cant get data to/from disk faster than 80MB/s. Small files have a lot of file/disk overheard and depending on their size, it could go as low as 10MB/s. However, my reloaded github version of Plex was slow and/or not functioning and giving me errors that my Roku and Chrome (desktop web GUI) could not access the server. I first thought it might be the disk i'm writing to (disk 10) because that's when i noticed the slow speeds. 2 SSD of 1TB used for cache. I have other devices going through the same router that preform as expected. it is ungodly 1. The source device is an old SATA hdd so maybe that's why the transfer speed is so slow. The As others have mentioned, larger files will perform better as they require less overhead. I'll attach a diagnostics taken during the slow period of parity check. Writing a lot of small files will always be slower but the impact of parity will be more severe because it requires repeated seeking and switching between reading and writing. I have therefore connected my Unraid with 10GB to the network, parked files I often need on a Raid-1 NVMe cache drive and upgraded my main computer (Mac mini m1 with onboard 1GB) to 2. I need to refresh the page several times to see my files and reloading takes 10 to 20 seconds. Watch ssh CPU usage on both ends. Hey! I just upgraded my 3TB parity drive to a 4TB drive, unRAID is running a parity sync right now. Very handy for moving files right within the Unraid Admin GUI. I have been backing up for over 1 months and still only 25% complete. Hi I think du is taking a long time on my unraid (I also think that solving this will make my backup much faster using rsync) Here's the results of a test, on a folder that contains 6000 files, totaling 1735MB On my main computer (not unraid) it takes 0. walterg74. My problem is with docker containers. Installation. I have been plagued with slow transfer spe In the below example, I am copying a 2. Reply reply ext4 to other fs file transfer slow upvotes Hi all, I currently have two 8TB hdds installed in my unraid machine and I have two in my computer that I need to transfer all the files to and then format those to add to the unraid machine. I have personally used this application and have found that it does speed up file Slow transfer of small files over SMB is expected behavior if there are a lot of small files, whether that be Microsoft SMB or *nix and Samba. Copying/Moving files between unRaid drives - Extremely slow speed Copying/Moving files between unRaid drives - Extremely slow speed. ) won't The Nextcloud interface has been slow since the very beginning. When I copy files from my computer to unraid the file transfers are very fast; however when the Mover is invoked it can take upwards of 10-12 hours once I manually invoke the mover to actually move that data to the data drives. (I have a very cheap SSD cache drive and I see see write speeds of 90MB/s for Bluray ISO's directly to the cache. Subscribe. I noticed a Red Ball on Disk 6 Yesterday so I unassigned it and replaced it with a larger drive, but the rebuild seems to be going incredibly slowly at 2. Earlier this morning I used Black Magic Disk Speed Check and when I select a share on Unraid as the Target drive, I got the following results: Write: 3. Preferably as little as possible. Free Trial; Buy Now; New files added to the mergerfs share are actually written to the local share, where they will stay until the upload script processes them An upload script is used to upload files in the background from the local folder to the remote. rclone is a How to move file from folder (share) to another on the same disk? (its so slow doing from MacOS)! Help Share Sort by: Best. 3s. Usually people who encode the files have the original media format. Unraid cannot pull files onto the cache dynamically for read caching like storage-tiering file systems such as ZFS or Storage Spaces. Data is rarely deleted, but frequently written and read. What I would like to know is what is the quickest way to move everything across. For comparison, my Crashplan is known to be slow Support for CrashPlan PRO (aka CrashPlan for Small Business) docker container Application Name: CrashPlan PRO (aka I've since built a new server using Unraid and migrated to CrashPlan Pro via the docker app and adopted the WHS 2011 backup successfully. As per the attached screenshots, it was fine a little over a week ago with the last c I'm downloading a big file off my server. I have Unraid connected to a BT Home Hub 5. So, another topic on this but there are a few things I want to check with my systems as I think it may just be me So I've followed spaceinvader ones video on getting a vbios for tech power up, modifying it, and using that All went well, passed through the primary gpu from unraid to a vm, did a fu It's like this whole system just gets slower and slower over time. But even the parity disk is independent. My docker img has 30GB and resides on /mnt/cache I'm looking for benchmarks on how differences in CPU and memory affects file serving performance, eg CPU PassMark vs MB/s, or memory size/speed vs MB/s. Assuming you are using windows for Try using Double Commander, it's another file-manager-docker setup. If I copy many small files to the user share the transfer rate is less than 2MB/s. drops to lower speed occur, when the destination is a cache only share. I've got a cache pool, and if the files happen to be in that, or getting moved to that, it's VERY snappy, but I feel like the mechanical drives shouldn't be this slow. Prev; 1; 2; Next; I use Arq to back up to a Minio docker container running on Unraid. Single file downloads are generally pretty fast and will saturate the client downstream bandwidth, but if they select more than How to Recover Deleted Files from an UNRAID server running the XFS file system I deleted about 1. I game very rarely (like once every few weeks) and so I was hoping to use a windows VM that had access to the majority of the resources on my unraid server, but would only need them for a while and would then free-up when not in use and hibernating File Browser has been the most consistent, but I still get slow download speeds over WAN when a user is grabbing multiple files. Compression is not very useful for small files (say, less than 100 bytes). Sometimes related to jumbo frames and packet size in your network config, sometimes due to samba settings in unraid (even case can cause slowdowns). If I do just a direct write of a large file to the UnRaid servers cache drive, I can get 65MBs on average and I have seen 81MB's. In my case, the file overhead will take it from 108-110MB/s for 40GB . Docker is used to r Unraid SMB performance is very slow compared to SMB performance of a Windows Server VM running on the same Unraid hardware. Most likely, if the initial speed is 500MB/s (while it's caching to RAM) it means the network is writing well enough, though not great, since initial speeds closer to 1GB/s would be better, but main problem appears to be the cache device can't keep up, and very few SATA SSDs can sustain 300/400MB/s, Samsung 850/860EVO and Crucial MX500 can usually do around Using an iMac to browse folders on my unRAID, very slow opening folders which have a large (more than 100) items inside the folder. Reply reply What I found on Unraid forums is that yes mover is slow, especially with lots of small files. Cache doesn't seem to help. I'm using this exclusively as a file storage/sync device so that ancient machine is sufficient for my modest needs. Whether I am pulling from a template or via terminal using "docker pull" I get speeds that would match around 50kb/s even tough I have a 50Mbit/s line. I've checked the write cache as per post two, and all seem to be enabled with the exception of the boot flash drive. Same situation if I hit F5 Refresh. Also install the unbalance plugin and see if moving between drives gives the same slowdown. I installed unRaid yesterday, and despite its very nice features, it is extremely slow when compared both with Proxmox and TrueNAS on the exact same system. This is typically slower but results in smaller file sizes and better quality. I'm very new to Unraid. This activity is masked by mergerfs i. it doesn't do this when accessing files on the array from a network PC. I downgraded Unraid and the speeds went back to normal. Have been Tried disabling bonding but it didnt fix my problem thanks for the suggestion though! i find it really weird that i got this problem out of nowhere, ive had the server for 5 months without any network problems. 6. unRAID will never have similar speeds to RAID5 because data on disks is not stripped, however if more than one disk fails data on all others can be read, unlike RAID5. 2, but larger backups are failing with Unraid 6. I tried transplanting the drives in a different server but Just to recap, I rebooted Unraid, I mounted my NTFS drive and tried copying files via MC from the NTFS drive to a User share on the array. My Unraid server has 64 gigs of ram and I am running 15 terabytes Unraid's file over head on HD's will be a major performance hit for large numbers of small files. Hello, since I've upgraded to 6. I started my parity check last night and it started around 105-115 MB/s on a 16TB parity drive. - Cache drive is currently disabled, but i wouldnt expect it to go this slow. I have come across a lot of solutions, but none seem to be the fix for me. Now only the first is "alive", with following hardware: - Supermicro X10DRi motherboard - Supermicro Total transfer size was about 150GB of large files, and speed remained constant, but not all SMR drives can do this, for example I have a few WD 2. I don't understand what's holding up? What is m Hi All, I am having a recent issue where I noticed that my server had started a parity check, but when I took a look at the values it was doing it at an extremely slow speed, saying it would take days to finish. Any suggestions? syslog-2016-06- Hello. Pls ensure the destination ( file copy ) also provide c) I downloaded through windows a huge file that is located on my SSD cache and as we can see its loaded from the NVMe as expected: d) Then I downloaded a smaller file to test the RAM cache. I have done some simple testing with Windows -> Unraid and it appears to process small files 3x faster for my setup vs SMB. Sometimes these files transfer almost It’s recommended for initial transfer to disable both cache and parity, for maximum speed and efficiency. It could be several things which are causing this. When tranferring the spe I'm downloading a big file off my server. I like it as opposed to ssh and MC for very long file transfers I've been suffering from slow write speeds even when using a cache drive. 7. I have looked through the syslog and cannot see anything (to my very much untutored eye) that is wrong. It streams Plex without any hiccups, and generally behaves itself when dealing with smaller files like word docs, pdfs, and images. ISO files down to 10-20MB/s when doing old 4MB photo files. I think another video or two on populating an array with data (initial transfer of existing data vs. But when i try copying files i only get speeds at around 7 MB/s so not even Fast Ethernet speeds. If you are on a tighter budget, a 7200 rpm drive such as a WD Black will do fine. Lately it's been in the 60 MB/s range. I have a HPe Microserver Gen 10 (I know not the best but thats The test files are all fixed file sizes with random data stored on the SSD prior to initiating file transfer. 8 MB/s to 6 days at load average is a little high, but Hi all, I have unraid operating as a media repository, and noticed that all my downloads seem to bottleneck. The file activity is shown by However, if the file system is reiserfs, there can be write performance issues but these usually occur when a file is written or modified. I posted elsewhere here and it was You could remove the parity disk until you have finished the copy. 4k 546 Share; Posted August 19, 2019. I have found it to be considerably faster than krusader. They're all really small, however, as they add up they come to be ~ 80GB (128GB SSD as my cache drive). That seems very long for me. Or DiskSpeed to see if the graphs match. So the scenario is I have 3 computers, all with static IPs all on the same network. I have read as much as I can about slow speeds but unfortunately, being a NEWB, I just don’t understand it I have some shares I was transferring in that had several hundred thousand of small files and other shares with large video files. A little convoluted but it seems pretty bullet proof Unraid is really slow at writes and you pay the price for how much available storage you have vs ZFS or a hardware raid setup. Before i would transfer files locally and would be in the 110-120 MB/s range. 9 - flashdrive was too small so I could not upgrade earlier) - I really love this plugin - moving all static and not frequently accessed data to other disks so the array does not need to spin up all drives - I No Unraid doesn't work like that at all. Reply to this topic; Start new topic; There's always some overhead on transfers, normal to get a little less than iperf on real world, Like the title says my whole unRAID server becomes unresponsive when Radarr is moving a file to the desired "Movies" folder. If I write directly to the cache drives via the disk share then the transfer rate saturates my gigabit network and runs about 110MB/s (~980Mbps). Pertinent info: Cache is enabled for the share Cache is supported by two 1TB WD Blue SSDs on SATA 3, btrfs RAID 1 I have verified the files are being written to the SSD during the transfer One more thing, file protocol handling time becomes a very big factor in transfer speed when you are talking large numbers of small files (say, <200MB) being transferred. While transfering movie to my unraid server i manage to get 10mb/s. Raw Throughput seems passable when transferring large files, but there is a delay of about 1 second for every new file, so when transferring large amounts of smaller files such as 15KB XMP files, it takes forever to do so. Seems to be local to the VM. As per the attached screenshots, it was fine a little over a week ago with the last c Hey, first time poster so please be gentle with me. Browsing As other mentioned, transfer speed for larger file is much faster than lots of small files (mine is around 113 MB/s vs 56 MB/s). On windows they go so fast I can't even read them, closer to 300 files a second. Via the Community Application: Search for "DiskSpeed" My Docker space usage has slowly been growing over the past few weeks - from ~60% to 71%: Maybe it was conflicting with UnRaid’s built in updated or something, I’ve not really had time to dig in to it. It was working well with Unraid 6. The logs (attached) aren't showing any errors I see that would explain it. to plex, radarr etc files haven't 'moved' Getting Started When I transfer files from Windows 11 desktop to the unraid server, I get around 115MB/sec. Mover was running terribly slow on the small file ones and I was figuring out the transfer rates where it was going to take up to 27 days to run everything through the Cache/Mover. Both the computer and server are hooked up to the same router. So i had a drive fail. The CPU can do more, the disks can do more, the network can do more, the receiving end can do more. When accessing the SMB-share from MacOSX Catalina utilising 10Gbe, where SMB signing and also directory caching is switched off, I got write speeds up to about 800 to 900 MiB/s, which is totally fine, even though roughly at 66% of theoretical throughput of 10Gbe, but the read speeds are capped off at max 600MiB/s, meaning, I'm seeing small spikes to 600MiB/s every Hi, I just recently switched to UnRaid and I am loving it. These switches are small dedicated computers and a reboot will often fixed problems that are caused by their firmware. The ESP32 series employs either a Tensilica Xtensa LX6, Xtensa LX7 or a RiscV processor, and both dual-core and single-core variations are available. By ChadTheDJ May 8 Please attach your files to your post. It worked great but I had unraid on a small server and decided to try it out on the r730xd. Now I am trying to transfer more data over, 1. For example: I have around 15,000 jpgs I downloaded from google photos that I want to transfer to my unraid array. Hi all, I recently built an Unraid server using a Supermicro enclosure with a consumer mobo w/intel 10 series. My initial test was 20x And 15 seconds sounds about right for an average to slow flash drive. new hardware and rclone Plugin Hey everyone This is a simple plugin which installs rclone on your unraid system. I ran some tests from SABNZBD and my internet shows about Hi I have recently upgraded my unraid machine with newer hardware and I am getting incredible read speeds (~150 MB/s) but terrible write speeds (~180 kB/s). Hi When I copy files between folders on my unraid system I get slow and irregular transfer speeds. Open comment sort options. A parity check takes 11,5 hours with an av Hey! I just upgraded my 3TB parity drive to a 4TB drive, unRAID is running a parity sync right now. By default, unzip does indeed extract files in the same folder has it his used, you can move the files using a gui file explorer afterward or use the mv command. I don't understand what's holding up? What is m I have a user share setup to use the cache disks. I'm in the process of copying all my data back and its taking a long ass time. 5 GB LAN. 5" 1TB SMR drives, and Hi all, I currently have two 8TB hdds installed in my unraid machine and I have two in my computer that I need to transfer all the files to and then format those to add to the unraid The first 8GB file didn't drop below 300MB/s using Most Free The 2nd File transfered about 1GB of data before it slowed down to 50MB/s and then got lower to 30 MB/s Tried disabling bonding but it didnt fix my problem thanks for the suggestion though! i find it really weird that i got this problem out of nowhere, ive had the server for 5 I am also seeing a significant slow down when processing a directory listing in PHP script that is responsible for renaming folders from a VM running within UnRIAD 6. unraid homeserver Homelab SMB I isolated the NIC so unRAID wouldn't use it and then setup pfSense using a modified Free BSD template. When i am copying the same file from a M2 ssd to my NAS it's 100mb/s. Writing that file back to the server (to a share that is set up as Cache -> Array) was a little slower, but still in line with the speeds I'd expect to see when downloading files. The device is too slow or does not have enough storage - while 2 GB should be more than enough space, it is possible that your device fills up with data, or becomes increasingly slow to access. Theme . this would indicate, that somewhere in between the receiving I/O buffers (unRAID) and the actual writes to the share, one thing im wondering, I've got appdata share inside array (on ssd/nvmes), the plex appdata is particularly terrible, in that is has several million folders and files, cant remember how much exactly but its a big plex install atm, perhaps its slowing down due to just io being terrible reading all these tiny files? then again I'd imagine parity does just bit reads and doesnt On Ubuntu, using the same 2. zip. This guide covers how to use cache pools As soon as FUSE is involved, I get extremely sluggish performance (and really terrible when multiple small files are involved), but from disk to disk, no issues, I can max out Having said that, small queue length is generally slower on SMB, as it add file locking steps and confirmations to each transaction. The files are large (approx 1-2GB each) files - so it's not like it's thousands of small files either. The things that are stored in those pesky . Here's an example - I copy a folder (from windows explorer) containing 2 files from folder "torrents" to "movie", both folders are located on the same user share /mnt/user/. I mainly complaint the write speed or Network was 10G. Reddit gives you the best of the internet in one place. - No network issues, as the data is Nextcloud is an open source, self-hosted file sync & communication app platform. Removed the old drive, popped in a new drive and the system began rebuilding the new drive without asking me to format the new drive first. 08/13/21 12:43AM [Unraid Server Backup Set] Stopped backup to CrashPlan PRO Online in 0h:20m:28s: 1 file (20. Q&A. Access & sync your files, contacts, calendars and communicate & collaborate across your devices. The first download was In a situation where the unRAID array is always protected (not using a cache drive) and you're using good hardware (mobo/disks/LAN devices), the I/O internally and externally to Files are huge. Running 2x Xeon L5520s, 16GB DDR3 Ram - no other major dockers / VMs etc. When I first set it up I was getting 400MB/s transfers on large files and now there's no way I can even get a consistent 200MB/s with large files. I also have a lot of small data, even a lot of large RAW data is slow in places. This was done again using It had a lot of small files, it may explain why it's slow. A parity check takes 11,5 hours with an av Hi When I copy files between folders on my unraid system I get slow and irregular transfer speeds. See smb issues. I wanted to have a good local backup solution so I thought Unraid would be great. New. I use a HP Microserver Gen 8 as my Unraid box. When transferring files from the array to the VM it seems to fall on it's face for a few seconds the pick back up again. What could I guess time out can happen if Unraid is busy with writing files to the array. Even accessing the VM from RDP is very laggy. Posted March 8, 2015. I tried to copy using Midnight Commander from the disk where the files are located, to my SSD cache (spin drive), via Gigabit wired network. The device is physically too large - you want to replace the USB flash device with a smaller, more compact unit to fit a constrained space. <domain pfSense on unRAID, very slow internet upload? pfSense on unRAID, very slow internet upload? By I also have a small e-machines computer setup as a backup firewall that I use when I take down the array/server Now, I want to ensure it's correct before i install any new hard drives. When I transfer a file over to unRAID from Windows 11, I'm only seeing around 7. Add a Comment. But mover should be about half your parity check speeds. 5 minutes to transfer from the same drive Saving tiny files from Windows 10 on Unraid server super slow (even to cache direct) Smaller files always take longer regardless of network or directly attached. I created my initial array with empty disks. 2 eth0: 1000 Mbps, full duplex, mtu 1500 (bonding temporarily disabled) c) I downloaded through windows a huge file that is located on my SSD cache and as we can see its loaded from the NVMe as expected: d) Then I downloaded a smaller file to test the RAM cache. You could also try using something like robocopy with multiple threads for alot of smaller files and the /j option for large files. Hello, I am wondering if there is a way to adjust the amount of data that can be cached to memory during heavy file transfers to my server. They are a lot easier to work with. Aso make sure macOS is connected to server via ethernet I am getting extremely slow speedtest results. I am now putting in hard drives with media on it that I am mounting as Unassigned Drives. try changing your cpus to 1,3 only. Reply reply Testing sequencial speed you need to move one big files vs lots of smaller ones. Have to setup the transfer for each file where as one giant file is one setup then the data stream. It goes again with th This will require a deeper analysis. 9TB of data consisting of several directories and their contents and multiple individual files, I was told there was no way to "undelete" the data in a XFS file system in unraid. You decide what happens with your data, where it is and who can access it! Multi-threading would likely make little difference as only one thread at a time can be reading the sectors from alI drives. Pulling files from the server back to your PC will be slow if the data resides on the HDD array. Transferring files using SMB made the Unraid UI and some dockers very slow. At about 1/3 complete, it slows to about 40MB/sec. Light Mode Dark Mode. You might want to take a look at TeraCopy which is a program designed to copy and move files at the maximum possible speed by dynamically adjusting buffers to reduce seek times. Also, I don't know what your motherboard is, but it looks like it supports gigabit. Using regular move from folder to folder, the file have to move from unraid to your computer and back to the unraid. Moderators; 44. I'm worried that if I interrupt the rebuild to format the drive on Hello everyone I have a small issue I'm running Unraid host OS with nzbget docker everything works fine but unpacking its very slow I have my shares using a ssd pool what im I doing wrong. It may be worth trying SSHFS as an alternative to SMB. I get 70mb writes on large files and 40 on small. I am struggling to get any transfer speed greater than 1 mbps. Cache would have to dump the files to the array when filled up, and slow down / I have an issue when transferring files from my PC to my Unraid server. 7 and all is well - 6. Followers 1. Happy with that. It started moving at an extremely slow rate, Your VMs can access your Unraid storage for general file storage and the vdisk would normally just be for the VM OS. I launched the default preclear on a 3To WD Red HDD and it feels really slow, UnRaid maintenance is 10 mins of work followed by waiting a day or 2 for a notification to come in, Just finished installing my first unRAID server about 2 days ago so still pretty new to all this. I'm getting like, 200kb/second speeds, with occasional bursts up to maybe 6MB. The server is connected to Gbit LAN For me from windows Ssd to unraid Ssd on 2. 4Mbps (Effective rate: 13. A sample of 30 disks is nowhere enough to get reliability It is slow. Try using teracopy. 20GB) backed up, 303. Try the rsync command without the -z flag. 1. Average speed: 124. I'd like to build a new Unraid server for file serving only, so if it doesn't make much difference, I Usually slow write times are due to the overhead of the fuse filesystem. Then at 2/3 complete it picks back up speed again to 130MB/sec This same cycle repeats on every file in the copy. Under the parity check it says "Duration: 17 hours, 47 minutes, 48 seconds. If the files on this disk fall into that category, they can be moved but as testdasi said, you must understand exactly how to do it and the difference between a disk-to-disk copy and disk-to-share copy. Little files is a big issue. 3 (from 6. Thank you Just finished installing my first unRAID server about 2 days ago so still pretty new to all this. View More. It eliminated some random dips on one of my machines The unRAID community on Reddit. For the first 10GB it maxes out the 1G connection, but after that it hovers around 30MB/s. At the moment I'm not using Plex, but there's a possibility I will want to do that in the future to stream/transcode to my TV. 5gb I can get 225 on the right file. The only thing RAID like about Unraid is the fact that it has parity. They are the best equipped to compress with the best results. - Parity drives arent yet assigned. Even on windows with small files getting more then a few MB/s Hey there, There is a SMB share on my server with over 6,000 folders in it Recently, browsing this folder has become very slow to the point of seeing the green progress timer in Windows File Explorer for 60 seconds before it finally stops. Since I know my client disk can read around I've been running an Unraid Server for ages with my file shares over SMB, it works absolutely fine with Windows but I've found performance is horrible on my M1 Macbook Pro. If it pegs at 100% on either machine, you won't speed up transfers without going parallel, or using a different channel than ssh. I have stopped all dockers and the one VM that was running. It is so bad that even doing the file comparison for a backup can be as slow as 2-4 files a second at times. Stay informed about all things Unraid by signing up for our monthly newsletter. There are a lot of helpful people there who can walk you through the debugging process. That's good. I eventually gave up on it and just accepted fate. 2: try recordsize=65536, and honestly you might want to consider ashift=16 because ssds have My example of zip and rar files isn't good because they're both lossless compression and h264/265 are lossy. Many find that keeping windows on paired thread on a core helps with lag, and the addition of having 1 thread from one core (cpu 2) with 2 on another may be causing issues (I'm not 100% convinced of this, but windows isn't my main working environment and haven't done extensive experimentation with it. Unraid SMB performance is very slow compared to SMB performance of a Windows Server VM running on the same Unraid hardware. New - DARK - Invision (Default) New - LIGHT - Invision . 5. I have 22TB of data I’m copying from my local LAN to LAN unraid to unraid machines. Done and A-OK. 1 (and then 6. All of my networking is at least Gigabit. copying a single file between disks or writing to the array via SMB should not slow the disk access down to the point where docker and VM's die and stop responding - this is not heavy IO - its a single file. I didn't say 2 1. I am running a parity check (without write correction) and it's running extremely slow - 18MB/s, 12 days to finish. kill them first they actually slow you down, probably a lot. I've done a bunch of searching and I can't find any definitive solutions for transfering large directories of small files in a timely manner. When you use user shares, Unraid employs FUSE to manage files across multiple disks transparently. its purpose is to do a migration of about 20TB from one cloud provider to another. It was about 15gb of files and it was going to take 1day + Add me to the list as well - 6. Hi All, I am having a recent issue where I noticed that my server had started a parity check, but when I took a look at the values it was doing it at an extremely slow speed, saying it would take days to finish. I have 4x 14TB disks, one said as parity and a fast M. - Using Dynamix File Manager to copy the data. Hi sorry to bother people with this but i just started using Unraid and i was wondering if there was any way to crank up my transfer speeds. Link to comment. popular-all-users | AskReddit-pics-funny-movies Having the same issue in windows - I have 60K~ folders with 2 files in a single folder B on array and writing another file into B folder next to the 60K folders is now so slow, that its Turn on turbo write and if you are writing large folders with many levels of subfolders, experiment with high water or most free with directory splitting to distribute the load across more disks. The connect it back up and built parity at that point. So why is it so slow backing up to a Time Machine volume on UnRaid? Thanks I know I don’t have the fastest drives, especially the lower size drives. ) Hey, Upgraded recently to 6. the app create the directory the owner of the dir and its sub-directories is nobody and you cannot delete or move a files/dirs from that directory-tree seems like there is a little problem with the permission/inheritance behaviour with samba connections Using an iMac to browse folders on my unRAID, very slow opening folders which have a large (more than 100) items inside the folder. So 60 MB/s could just be normal because of the overhead of lots of small files or something interrupting optimal read rates? Budget is around $500-600 without hard drives. . Reconstruct write helps at the cost of needing the rest of your array spun up. Product; News; Apps; Use-Cases; Docs; Support; Pricing . Then at 2/3 complete it picks back up speed again to 130MB/sec This Hi all, I am new to Unraid. But if you're seeing a large disparity between a Windows share and an Unraid share when copying the same files, that definitely indicates a problem. By APD189 March 18, 2020 in General Support. 1TB in all, most of it being photos, text documents, and other small files that are under 200kb in size. 5Gbps NIC. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. I also have a 2nd NVMe Drive (as my first wasnt big enough), and that I use to install games, and to download any files (also passed through to the VM). Members; This one has been troubling me for a few days. And small file transfers are horrendously slow, maybe 100KB/s on a No, you can transcode using only a CPU. I am running Oh boy. Elite Dangerous in example has 36,000 files. Server: HP gen 8, UNRAID 6. 'normal' operation) and some basic troubleshooting would make unRAID even more You could remove the parity disk until you have finished the copy. If you were to purchase an I'm moving a lot of files for a friend, from 6 Truenas devices to 2 Unraid. Diskspeed shows disk 4,5,6 are very slow when full but the have very little data on them. Slow write speeds Slow write speeds. Tried copying large and small files, but no I'm on the latest unraid build and have 15 data disks (XFS) and 2 SSD's (512GB each) in a brtfs cache pool. I am planning to upgrade to 6. I have tried fixing this by adding Redis and a PostgreSQL database, but it is still slow. Both Windows 10 computers are up to date and operating on the same VPN (PIA), both are set the exact same SMB settings in Windows Features. jump to content. Having some slow transfer speeds on my unraid server and was hoping you guys can lend some insight. I'm new to unraid/nas but not Linux or sysadmin. Many of them pretty small. First note that those drives are SMR, so slow writes are expected, as for reads that benchmark doesn't look correct, disks 3 a 4 cannot be that fast, without any writes to the array start a parity check, wait 5 minutes, download Hello Community, I am new to unraid and just setup a (looking to the forum pretty small) unraid setup. Last month I noticed it took longer. Slow transfer speeds from Mac to I'v been playing with Unraid since Dec 2022 and I feel like I know a bunch from this piece of software. 1MB/s max I have since changed the cable between the router and the server to Cat 6 and this has improved to 16 - 20 MB/s. System share is still on disk1. Is it normal that a parity sync takes forever? The speed is just 36 MB/sec so it will take about 32 hours to finish the sync. 8Mbps) 08/13/21 12:43AM - Reason for stopping backup: The backup destination was disconnected Thanks in advance! 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Basically I'm wondering if using quicksync will lead to smaller/better file size/quality because the cpu is still technically doing the transcoding or if it will instead lead to larger/lesser file size/quality because it's a "gpu" Alright, it looks to be a little different than I remember, so this may not be helpful to you, but what I have (mine are set to 20G) is: Expands default cache 16k to much more reasonable size, without that NPM start caching files immediately to drive, which is slow, better use memory for that, If you are uploading very large files then your The application in question creates hundreds of millions of small files per server and has a demanding random read/write workload. I ran some tests with 10GB, 1GB, 100MB, 10MB, 1MB files. I copy Large files from my desktop to my server on a regular basis over my gigabit network. It takes 3. cdzfg dfrhnxf zlilbz oqdelyx lyywe bgyn brfy sgfnc aqgpxk uuauyld